Gather around sheep a brand new bra cast episode is starting now. Ring the dinner bell come over sheep. This is gonna be a good one. Jamie Bendel Jamie hurt and Adam it's weird when you do it. It's weird when you do it. I tried to make it weird. I wanted to do or and you did it You did a good job uncomfortable. Honestly, you've done everyone can first podcast I want you to hate the sound of your name because you just heard it said that way. Well, okay, well good job winning. You just did it. Congratulations. You know I do love you though. No, I love you too, man. And I know we've said that oftentimes on this podcast, you're a little bit of the whipping boy and I start to feel bad about that. And Jamie talked to me about it said I need to take the other Jamie talked to me about and said I need to take it easy on you today. Well, I talked to you about that also. But yeah, I was like, Jesus whiny bitch. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I speaking of I love you. Yeah, I've decided that I think there are you know, those telemarketer calls are great opportunities to just throw in random I love you. Or even if you're calling customer service or something. You're like, Hey, I'm trying to get a little Can I get a cut on my my cable bill? It's gotten expensive. There. They take 20 bucks off. Okay, great. Thanks very much appreciate I love you click just to put it out there just a little bit better. So the person's like, like the what we thought, What did he say? I think that's great. I think you're putting out some love in the world. Alright, so have you ever been partially engaged in a conversation with somebody and kind of zoned out who you're talking to? And did actually in the conversation by saying to a person who clearly Oh, yeah, not be saying I love you too. Oh. That is a bad day. Cuz you just like, love you. Right? Yeah, it happens. Yeah. I also think and tell me with you and your wives. Do you do this where like, I love you has somehow replaced Goodbye, right? Like when you're ending your colleagues, they love you. Right? Or when you're walking out the door. It's like, love you. And it's almost like, I feel like one. I like the idea that the last thing I'm going to say to my wife, if something were to ever happen is I love you. But I really feel like it's diminished the I love you. Because like Lisa will say, love you. And that means like, I don't want to talk to you anymore. That's the impression I get when it comes on the phone. You're saying that I love you now gets followed by separation? Yeah, it's usually what we say just before we separate. And sometimes Lisa and I like to play a little game where if we're, if there are other people around us as we're being separated, for instance, like if an elevator doors closing, or if she's pulling on the parking lot, and there's neighbors walking by. We always try and work in. I want to see other people. As she's okay. Yeah. That was about Yeah. I was like, I'll be back in a little bit. I don't want to see other people walk into if you walked in front of a crowded elevator. Yeah. As the doors are closing and you just said I love you. I don't know anybody in the elevator. Yeah, yeah. I mean that, you know, I mean, that's that's your I love you putting it out there. What do you think about the I love you at the end the conversations? So I think if it is cheapened. Yeah, by frequency of use, I concur and minimizing in the situation, then for it to have significance as the final thing you said, it can't be both, right. So then I think the thing I'm, I'm trying to save by saying I love you each time we separate, or each time we end the conversation is is kind of diminished because it's it's it's it's been used as kind of a catch all as Okay, it's a goodbye, right? Yeah. Love you. Okay, got it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Love you. Let's do that. That's what that that's what's that? Oh, my gosh, your words. Come on. That is with your spouse. Yeah, yeah. But if it's the telemarketer or the customer service Pro, I get it. You want to put the I love yous out there. Yeah. And so that's probably it opens up. It probably makes their day. Yeah, but even if you and especially if you had the kind of a nasty call, and you just end it with I will never use this company again. You will never hear from me again. I love you. Yeah, I feel like that would feel like as a they would take that as an insult. At that point. I don't know if it feels good to. You're at the coffee shop, and they hand you your your coffee or your latte or whatever. And you just say Alright, thanks. I love you. I think that's great. I think you're just putting it out there. I don't think that's awkward. I don't think I think that's just a beautiful thing. But I do think that you would never do it in person. I think I think if you if you said okay, let's have a contest and said tomorrow in person. Okay. I love you to as many people as you could. If you told me it was a contest, I might do it. Sometimes we go out to bars after we do the podcast. What I'm suggesting is that Tonight we go to the bar anybody that we who waits on us or who, you know, gets an I love you. Amen. See, I think it's challenging because I think you're dealing and challenging, right. But what I'm getting at is, I think it's very hard. So you may. So if you're on the phone, and you get to the end of the customer service call, don't be like, would you care to fill out a five minute survey? Right? Or a five question survey? Yeah, that's a real creepy. Like, no, I love you. Like, I love it. Now. It's the woman who just, you know, slid your Bud Light across the counter, and you're like, buddy, buddy. And my limit would be if saying it would make them uncomfortable. Like it would be, you know, if me saying it makes them feel bad, and I want to say it. Right. But you won't know that until you say it. That's interesting. Because, as Jamie and I say it, as JB and I said, it doesn't feel creepy at all. But when you say it, you're right. It does come off creepy. It comes off really, really uncomfortable. I do like the idea of the survey, though, where you do the survey, and then it's like, do you have anything? Any other comments? You're like, I just want to say that I love Alicia be customer service number 615. We should be anyhow, we got a great guest today. I think it's but I think it's so supposedly Oh, okay, I don't have to close the thing. I actually saw this week, a story that was talking about how men generally should say I love you more to other people in their lives. That it's that women are much more likely to tell their friends that they love them and that they mean it and that guys generally don't. I feel like I say I love you too much. To the people in my life. Yeah. And it may be unhealthy. I think he actually did earlier in the episode. Nevermind, go ahead. Oh, no, that was just playing on the the thing that you were saying. I've never said it to you. Let's just be real clear. Bendel, you get that a lot for me. We've said I love you a lot. In a way that has stopped feeling awkward. Yeah, it doesn't feel awkward at all anymore. I mean, initially, it felt like it was Yeah, kind of soon. And you don't need to say you love me at all. Because it's creepy. Is cre B Can you hear my tears? They are jumping on to the microphone. All right. Yeah. So anyhow, you know who I love. I love our next guest. guest is great. I'm very excited about it. We talked. I think I have have good feeling. Yeah, about how this is gonna go. I mean, he kind of does it always comedian. He writes, he's, I love his style of comedy. Actually, they will talk a little bit about but it'll be interesting. I'm going to go out on a limb. Okay, say I may feel it, but I probably won't express it to just say I love you. Okay, right. Maybe we don't say it, but I bet you feel it. And let's see if you can project it. During our discussion, I think I think I think I can do that. Okay, so stick around cheap. We're gonna see if Jamie can project his love to this next person without saying it. showing it right. Or as my wife says, showed that your actions, not the words. And yeah, do you think that you're a what your love languages, his actions or words? Ooh, I don't know enough about love languages. I think it's like acts of service. gifts. gifts. Yeah, like there's something that you respond to. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I just don't know enough about it. Sorry. You can clearly say I love you. You can just shower me with gifts. He but he went out of state and bought your pie. What else does he have to say? We did? I went I went to another state. Yeah, but that's what I call actions. Right? Yeah, that was Yeah, he didn't. I didn't say it. You know, I show it. I mean, how much more does he have to put it out there? Yeah, and it wasn't even like a goodbye pie. It was it was just like I'm gonna see everyday pie. Pie pie. I it's been a while since I've had all that apple pies so good though. It's good. We should rush honestly. If you find yourself at the cashiers Farmers Market apple pie, apple pie cuz that's no good. If we get them to sponsor our show we will know made it road sad path Could you imagine and they just pick one pie this router had actually we've probably done more advertising for them than any of our other sponsors. Great guests. We're gonna have a great show. It's exciting. Jamie's gonna project love. Ben is gonna protect love. Other Ben no other Jamie Well, not because it's creepy. We'll be back. Hey, Adam, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie Jamie. So what I'm having the greatest day in the world, go ahead. Tell me about what what are you doing? What do you what do you want to tell me about? We've got a new sponsor. Everybody is talking about how much better can my day get? Yeah, look, everybody's talking about trying to watch their weight and control their diet. And yes, our sponsor has decided enough of that. Get this. Our sponsor is from good, calm. And they just want So tell me about it. What do they do? Well, they will send you a box full of carbs. Yep. Cookies. sugars? No, no, it's just the raw car. Oh, rock, carbs and raw sugar. It's raw sugar. Raw car. Nice. Okay, no, but it's timely. I mean, because right now we're sitting at the end of February. We're almost in March. Basically, I'm sick and tired of whatever I tried to do at the beginning of the year, trying to lose weight. I'm sick of it. To get ready for next year, when you're going to want to lose weight again, you need to stuff yourself with those carbs. And that sugar. Yep. So when you get around to your your resolutions next year, what would I do in January if I didn't have weight? What better way to lose more weight than to gain that weight now? Yeah. So you've got a larger amount of weight that you can lose and be successful. And it'll be so easy. So wait, yeah, in February of next year, because you're huge, right? Next year, it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be easy Street. That is why they only have short term subscriptions. These guys, they got it made. So you probably pick them up in March and you drop them in like what? October? No, you drop them in December right before you go into your resolutions. And then they give you two or three months off, and then you're right back into it. That's great. Because honestly, I was a little worried that Thanksgiving and Christmas didn't get me heavy enough this year. Oh, no, no, you want to be working on that all year all year long. And they're just going to every every month, you're going to get a box in the mail. And it's going to remind you Oh yeah, I have not been so I gotta go to calm honestly, that is not a good website to go. She do not go to that website. None of us know and do not go to that website. Probably a real website. Totally getting not associative, but the more we think about it, it's definitely not carbs and sugar. carbs cheap you don't buy none of that because you don't look beautiful or in any way you are. You're worried about your weight just keep on rockin by. All right, welcome back. This is the BA cast Jamie bendele Jamie Hernan Adam Hague. And we are joined now by our comic guest for this episode. I'm very excited about it. Good friend of mine known him a long time is able to do things on stage that I can't and and that's not just be funny. Oh, wow. Yeah, I was a good example of it. Self deprecation. Because sometimes we have issues with Yeah, lash activity. Yeah, awareness around deprecate self deprecation. Right. Good job. I feel like we had an episode where you guys were trashing me and then I thought it was done. But no, I'm glad to hear that. That's just gonna carry over. Yeah, I thought we had an episode where you were oversensitive. And you sat there like a little baby. Oh, yeah. Well, perspective. Yeah. Okay, so here we go. I, I live in self deprecation. Yeah, absolutely. And I think the good comedians do, right. Not afraid to self deprecating. You gotta, you got to South Africa. And I say that good comedians, also including you in this case. I appreciate it. Yeah. Alright, so we are joined by Mr. J. Chris Newberg. Welcome to the podcast, my friends. So happy to be here. I've been at this has been on my calendar for like 4546 minutes. Whoa, Jay Z. Look at the time. Alright. So where are you? Where are you passing the pandemic these days, but mostly for the most part in my apartment in Los Angeles. But tomorrow, I'm venturing back on the road for the first time since I was at your club. Okay, I'm going to Utah. But then I'll be back here in LA, you know, quarantining or whatever. It's so weird here. It's the opposite of Atlanta. You go to Salt Lake, go. Yeah, I'm going to Ogden actually. Okay. I grew up in Salt Lake. Yeah. Oh, fun. It's very, it's so beautiful. The last time I was there, I had so much fun talking to the people from the town about the stories and the legends of all the tunnels underneath the city. Right. Yeah, it was really cool. And the stuff in the caves and the vaults up in the mountains. You talking about Salt Lake City? Yeah. So yeah, yeah. And there's also like in Well, you know, the Mormons originally were really big ancestry people like before ancestry.com. They were like the genealogical center of the universe. And they have these caves, which I always found a bit sketchy. Yeah, that they had these caves. Well, they, we can talk about why they do it. But they had these caves up in the mountains that allow them to keep all these records and so they have a lot of the Mormon records as well as the genealogical records. In these deep deep mountain caves. It's kind of like You saw wargames where they had that big vault in the mountain where, basically what we have for the Mormon paperwork as well. And Adam really loves people from Utah. If he meets someone from Utah, he gives them plus two right from the start. Yeah, Mormons practice baptism of the dead. And so they will after people die, they baptize you Mormon, so that you can find your way to their version of heaven. And so, that's one of the reasons they were into genealogical so that they could go through and make sure they got everybody. Okay, so is that is that a true story? story? Yeah, it is totally true story and Mormon listeners to our show will will know that they do a baptism of fire. Is there a material that you can line your casket with? That makes you baptism proof that? No, you know, everybody's gonna be Mormon. Garlic is there? Nope. You're all Mormon at the end. I think it's highly presumptuous to come along after somebody snuck into there and be like, we blame you. A lot of religions get a little presumptuous, but yeah, you're right. I think I've never heard of post death presumption of faith. It would be nice if we could do that, though, to grow our listenership. If we could just basically, you are a listener of the podcast. Yeah. I think that'd be like it. You'd probably want to just make them follow you after they stop listening. Did I follow the by? I don't remember following them. Yes. It's an interesting thing. They do. Yeah, they claim as listeners, by the way, if you should get to that. Place, hold on a second. Yeah. Because I've just had like a very dark thought that on all of those like legacy. obituary sites, yes. You can leave a comment. Yes. And go in and comment and be like, I was so sorry to hear that one of our listeners died. And love. That's the new promotion. He loved listening to our podcast, and he said that he just wanted his family and friends to spend more time listening. I felt like obligated to comment, just let him know how much we're gonna miss him. From our listener family, though. We do have an opening. If anybody's You know, we've got an opening for a listener. That's right. Go to the bullpen of the dead. Yeah. Enjoy. Enjoy your your trip to Utah. It'll be great. Thank you. I actually recently watched a funeral on Instagram, where he invited on Instagram. Yeah, okay, stream do they streamed it? Okay, they streamed it. He's a funeral influencer. And you know, I was so disappointed because I wrote a joke today that I thought we were word was word funny, but absolutely 100% been done. It's so funny. But it's like I don't I when I die. I want my funeral in the afternoon because I'm not a morning person. But that's not going to play on stage to not I don't think, but I think the morning Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I love the morning show. That's a good one. Yeah. Does that work? Yeah. I think it does work. Yeah. And if it doesn't work out, shout out baptism of the dead. You know, your words are up to it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's okay. If a comedian tells a joke about death, and it dies. Yes, that's true. Yeah. Alright, so you'd write material for other comics, right? Not so much other comics use other using other comics. But now it also got a call last minute from a comic for punch up or whatever. But most of it is. TV posting game shows up. But I just finished the run of the J on ABC. And I did all the writing for the chaser. So like everything they said, that was slightly funny. That was me whispering to them. Awesome. This is great gag. I mean, it's funny. I think we just got picked up for season two. But um, yeah, I was a little funnier than he probably normally is. No, you'd be surprised. He's hilarious. Oh, that's funny. I mean, he he's got really great timing. And he says the most strange shit is Monica really smart. And but yeah, he had he had every single joke perfectly. Right. So do you find it's hard? Like, is it? How much of a process is it for you to try to get somebody else's voice? Yes. I think it's because you just have to kind of count I always like are like, that's the that's the benefit I think music gave me because it's like I tell a joke. I pick up on joke rhythm as music. So I get someone's timing after about 10 minutes, 15 minutes. And then I just kind of beat it out that way. And by beat it out, not like beats but like 1231. Right. So and it's weird because most comics have. They mostly have four, four times And you'll have other people have different highlights, like okay, for example, like, Did you like a Wendy Liebman, who I am a huge fan of? She has the weirdest fucking timing ever, but it's perfect. Like, it's such a strange timing, right? And I don't even know if it's all tagged at all. Like, it's all reversed tags Do you do and I've never asked one day the question, but now that you brought it up, I wonder if her audience at some point, like they know, at some point, they know the music, right? They get the melody of her joke. And and does that make it harder for her to still pull off the reverse knowing that there's a reverse coming? I mean, maybe but also at the same time, it's like, that's the difference as long as it's first to them. I mean, they're not going to have to deal with like, Oh, I'm bored of her, she's doing the exact same. It's like, it's different from music to the extensive, like, you know, how when you go to a concert, and it's like, basically, any band is there to start off with the upbeat number and a specific key, and we're going to play maybe another one, and then they're going to slow it down, and maybe mid tempo and fall over. It's just like a comedy set. As far as jokes know what you're gonna do. So her rhythm is I don't think her audience tired of it, because it's so she wrote. She's like a knuckleball picture. Picture. We're joke. Weird, but great. So a long answer is, I think that's amazingly interesting, the idea of joke cadence. And that, you know, and and i wonder, I've never thought of it that way at all. So I think that's really interesting that you bring it up. But do you think that audiences miss it? If it doesn't hit on the at the right point? So for instance, if the joke doesn't come in the in the cadences as it's expected, is it is it missed? Sometimes, I mean, there's, I really can't really plan for it. But the stuff that you end up looking at, to write for them is polished, and it's on TV, and you know, that it's not going to veer off into some other thing. So then you just give them given the line and have them like, weigh in from that. Well, that's Oh, yeah. I think that's amazing. I think it's the hardest part of, of becoming a comedian is understanding what your joke rhythm is. And I think, yeah, so I think that sometimes what people struggle with is they're trying to write jokes, music out of a range that they can actually sing to use to continue the music. Now, she can't force that, right, that has to be kind of your natural rhythm, which everybody has, right. So everybody has a way that they are effective. Getting humor out of other people, right. So the so the object is, I want to make this other person laugh. How do I do that? And well, you know, it was super impressive, cuz he had to do it twice. Was Drew Lynch, right? Cuz he was a comic before wasn't even a comic before he got hit. And it hasn't stopped falling. Yep. Oh, he's, he had to relearn how to tell jokes. Timing his stutter. And I don't know how he does it. Good. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's crazy. Now, you said that most comics are in like, a four four time? I think so. Yeah. Punch, set up punch part. That's interesting. And so I wonder if that's true. You said, you know, comics trying to find their rhythm. Like, do you is it safer to be in a four four and it's a little bit more adventurous to be outside of that or I mean, it's interesting. Well, a lot of its pacing. Right. So so there are people who are good, like street joke tellers, which I I feel like I really struggle with what's the street joke teller as opposed to a crest? You gotta you got an example. I have my favorite Chico quiches. Everyone's heard of grasshopper walks into a bar bartender's like, you know, you got to drink me reasoning is. So it's like, a joke joke, right? That's like a street joke. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but you can Okay, so like the majority. What I've tried to do is I'm a joke writer, like, that's my I fucking love jokes. I think it's the best thing in the world. I know. There are people who are funny who don't tell jokes, stories funny. And you tell them in a funny way. I love joke. So my problem to get to an evolving situation is I had to learn how to put stories and things around that. Because I didn't want to be shaky green. I didn't want to be like a farm secretary. That's, that goes back to your question, Jamie. I think the audience does tire of the exact same thing. Dun dun dun dun dun. If that's what you do, that's why I think when you know what you're doing, you mix it up. It's hard to it's hard to have a flow or segue from just joke joke joke. Joke joke. I think so. I mean, like, I you know, it's like a death. Like if you're doing a 45 minute set. You're doing one liners, you're probably telling 160 jokes, at least, right? I think actually, this is I had never I mean, someone who is sitting on the outskirts of comedy like I am. I've never thought of a it's amazing to me. Like, I mean, yeah, this is this is an eye opening moment for me. I mean, it's just, it's just that really makes a lot of sense. And it really, it's an interesting thing that I hadn't factored in that that's happening. It's so obvious and music, and it's a little it seems less obvious, but now that you've mentioned it, I'll never not see it. Stop. Yeah. Can I take you to Utah? for a day, I'm just saying. Yeah, but no, it's very, it's great. And so when you're writing for shows, and you're kind of getting that cadence for the character, is it different based on the tone of the show? Yeah, well, okay, so the cheat, okay, so the Chase was kind of a cool situation to be in because they've never, they've never been on a major network. They were in the UK, they were in Australia. Now they've come to ABC. And so it's their first opportunity to kind of like, establish themselves. So when we were sitting around in the writers room, we were like, okay, there's Brad, James. And Ken. Ken is the most famous. He's the quick witted, Brad is I think the most money women in James is a crazy Gambler, like Rain Man guy. So you had to figure out who those are three definitely different people. So I had to write three totally different ways. And a lot of it was experimenting and Valence. Because it's like, certain people can be charming when they're mean. And certain people come off immediately like fuck you forever. And can can tell a mean joke. Can can say something mean, and it's funny because he gay. Looks like the keebler elf has a voice but not at all intimidating. And see his pie for you know what I mean? A tiny dude. I don't really fight for but he's not a call. And then you've got a Brad, who's this tall, GQ, handsome fella, you know, six foot plus, and it comes out a little bow tie. And then you have James who kind of comes down doesn't look like you've had Botox out of space and make no facial expression, and just destroyed with monotone, straight up one liner. And the reason of that is cheating. Like, that's exactly my rhythm. Interesting enough to work too hard. But the funniest thing I've ever seen that didn't make air obviously, was the first time I wrote for Brad and I gave him a joke. And I was like, it's up to you, dude. I said, I think it's gonna come across me. But it's your choice. I'm like, okay, to get out there. And the first contestant, heavyset guy and really sweating and sat in his backstory as if he's so good at trivia. In his wallet. He's got tons and tons of free drink cards from bars for winning trivia so much though, that he has to use a rubber band. But I just gave him some joke and I don't remember months ago, but it was something along the lines of Well, you're not gonna have a condom in there. And it just it it shut down. Executive Producers like no. Cutting No. To go and then had to go into booth music. You want to be nice. That's funny. To have a condom in there. Alright, so speaking of cards, we ask our guests What is your calling card? What am I calling card? What do you mean by that? What is your thing? What is your what do you do? Well, no, no. Do like what's your thing? What is your? What do you think is your calling card? Yeah. Yeah, like flashes calling card was speed. Okay, right. What's your what's your calling card? It wasn't superhero Adams calling your best friends with the guests. Question, could you allow the guest to actually answer? Are you on a tape delay of what's going on on your side of the table? He's in the middle process of answering the question. Please go ahead. Um, I would say patience. Okay, we need an answer. All right. So our second question that we ask of our guests is you're familiar with the concept of a meet in three restaurant? Me in three meet? Meet him three. Are you starting to just because of the Bluetooth I apologize? Are you saying meet as in the food meet and greet someone or it's like a cafeteria diner style where you get a choice of a meat as your entree, and then three side dishes. Oh, what do I say about that? No, no. Hey, familiar with them? And I'm guessing I know Yeah, yes. Yeah, absolutely. All right. So it the the analogy of this question is in your life, what is the meat? What is the thing around which everything else is organized? Question, punch me in the deck? I think. I don't know, I just have to think I think that it all, probably my ability to think and pretend like I'm having trouble finding a way to answer the question when I'm just pacing and stalling for something cool that I don't really get stressed. I think I might think, the need for me to or being organic. Okay. I don't know. It's a great question that I don't think they're the correct answer. No, no, that's why we ask it. We're just curious what, what, how people conceive of the way in which they organize their life. So now the second part of that is, what is your three? What are the three attributes that you would like people to most closely associate with you? I just I would like them to continue to, I think that I would like, eventually, at some point. People know my name. So that it's not just the dude with the guitar, but I do enjoy music. So I'm a different one of them. The ability to make people laugh is pretty cool. And the ability to eat by making people laugh is cool. I can identify with that. Absolutely. I mean, I mean, I'm a middle aged white dude, if you ask me the question, you can ask me the same question at a different any different decade of my life? 20 or 30? And I'll tell you for 40 I wouldn't tell you how it would be completely different, right? Sure. Yeah, I think it should be, as it should be. Yeah. Okay, so now we do a little bit of a rapid fire round, we ask questions that have been pulled from a store purchased icebreaker deeper talk kit. I feel like these come from like an executive retreat type kit, you know, like, could they meet your colleagues, colleague? And because it's lightning round, they are deep questions to which we want not shallow but short. Responses top of mind. You as the guests have the choice? Would you prefer to go clockwise or counterclockwise around the table? What are the last person to clockwise? counter clockwise? All right, well, I'm gonna start with the other Jamie. And we will go counterclockwise. Technically clockwise, is gay. Yeah, I'm counterclockwise. You need. It's okay to include manga. Again. Yeah, we made clockwise. Last time it goes Jamie, Jamie got to go first. Now it's my turn. That's it. That was a different episode. And they always start every time and start with Jamie as 12 o'clock. We can either then come around to me, and then to you like this, so we're always starting out. I did also think he was 12 o'clock. Okay. I feel more like six o'clock. Honestly, you look like six o'clock. I feel like 11 o'clock, but okay, hit it. Alright, is violence ever acceptable? in video games? Good. What have you learned about life from loss or death, loss or death? Take advantage of the opportunity to share what you want to say while the person is there. What have you done from a place of insecurity that has long lasting effects? Anything that I've ever done is viral. Oh, well done. What are the daily rituals? Oh, go ahead. No, I remember it was gone. What are the daily rituals you swear by and think everyone else should explore to bass? Fish oil and long walk to write to call? What do you think society owes its citizens? Am I a senator from Texas? All right. Alright. Next what controversial opinions? Do you enjoy sharing with others? Many, but I need to hear their first. Okay. All right. That's it. Those are three that's our two round rapidfire. Yeah. Can I can I just say please, please, if you guys ever do an epic episode on April 1, can you please All right, rapid fire. Yeah. You guys that I was dying. I thought that the whole rapid fire bit but you guys are doing about clockwise and counterclockwise. If you just did that for the end of the show, and you're like, Alright, well, thanks to our guests. We have discussed that. There's going to be that moment where the guests tells us that's all the time they have right Yeah, I believe Yeah. Oh, I know. I'm no longer part of the show. Yeah. I do like how he corrected me though cuz I said, No, no, no, you go ahead and he said, it's rapid fire. But exactly, no, no, there is no fire I write for shows Joe. Alright. So the other thing that we talk about when we have the opportunity to talk to a comedian is the concept of a broken bit. And so I believe that every comedian has a joke, a joke concept that they believe in. But for whatever reason, can't get it to work. I feel like you want to jump ship. My most recent ones that I have a column when I'm on stage, because all of my notes are like trigger words. And just like one word, word, five, like jokes that are finished jokes that are in the process and joke, suck, but you're going to try anyway. And it's an old joke. And it's one of those things that I feel horrible every time I tell it. But it is so good. Like, it's such a horrible joke, but it's accidentally a really large joke. But it's so inappropriate, the broken bit, because what do you do? If you can't do it on TV joke is the same to your race. No one comes. I disagree. So it's just it's like, so appropriate. And it's like, because it's it's about the creepiness of me, not the situation. Yeah, that's a zinger. I think it's broken. what's broken, it's great. So I but so the best part. So what I love about seeing comedians that you know, that you have a relationship with, and I think every comedian has been there, particularly like in your local comedy scene, is when you know, the guy on stage has totally bailed on their set. And they've started working just to the back of the room. Right. And they're doing all of those kinds of jokes or injury, like, you know, what, about with this audience, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna work to my friends in the back. Right? And, you know, it's like that comics, pull the chute. switching into a totally different set. Yeah, I love that as well. So I love that as well. But I was gonna say so these guys, from the standpoint of when you do your, give them an example of how you give the audience a little bit of choice in what your set looks like. Okay, I do this bet, called clean, smart. 30. And I give people a clean heart dirty, clean, smart, dirty, controversial, inappropriate jokes I wrote today. And I have jokes and all of those categories. And I just let people think that they're in control. And I'm just like, Okay, give me a you know, give me category and category, whatever they say. I'm kind of like Tandy. Alright, so, so give do do an example of that. Here. let let let Adam and Jamie both choose choose in the audience. Okay, Adam, please mark dirty controversial inappropriate jokes that are inappropriate. Oh, man. 911 horrible tragedy, terrible tragedy, and never in a million years ever tried to make lighter nonetheless. What I was thinking myself like right around the time that it happened to people who work in the advertising departments of the store 711 or like, Oh, good. That's hilarious. Thank you. What are my choices again? Clean, dirty controversial inappropriate jokes. I wrote today smart house my like, you're not going to get or like smart like, wow, that honey. Just smart enough so that I get Adam maybe is like questioning. So controversial. No smart. Oh, smart. Disco, disco, fantastic style of dance or exit command from a scorned lover with a list. Just go. be amazed how many people do not get that joke. Well, I got it. So eat shit, Jamie. Stan, correct. All right. So what questions do you have for us? I wanted to be doing a podcast. We have been doing a podcast for a little over a year. But much like the drummer drummer and spinal tap, we lost a fourth and took a little bit of a break with the pandemic. We had a Yoko situation. Right? Yeah, they might be listening to the podcast. We're not gonna go too far into it. But it was a Yoko situation. Jamie and I tried to send an email to Adam we actually accidentally sent it to the other guy. was too late he was gone. So, so we've been at it for a while, kind of, you know, it's a it's a little bit of a How do you think podcasting has changed the way comedians approach? Create a content creation? It varies. I think this is like what you're gonna have is you're gonna like, I'm not a huge fan. I think he's very successful. And he's arguably the most successful comedian podcaster at the moment. I don't listen, please, smart and it's Rogen and you have a Rogen person comes in. I remember and I respect about that eroding so much otherwise, I use for friendly as as an hi but I'm guarantee you don't know who the hell I am. And he has been doing it for like, seven years, eight years, he would like run around Sunset Strip from like Last Laugh Factory to come to comedy, sorta, it probably would have this team follow me and everyone was like, What the hell are you doing? And he was so ahead of the curve. And then he jumped on pod. And he killed it. And now everyone's like, Oh, I'm gonna do a podcast and I'm gonna be Joe Rogan only moved to Texas, and he's gonna have a whole community of comics there and whatever. I think it's just another carrot that's dangled in front of comedians in a business. That way too many comedians will never get care. Right. So I think it's hope. I mean, it, but it's like, it's also depressing. It's like, it's hard for a regular comic to go appreciate immediate response to be like, Oh, that's great idea for jokes. Great story. Can't wait for someone to like it. But I think in two months, right. So I think it gives you an opportunity to stretch but it also, like, let's say you were hurt, and you couldn't do practice with the team and you had to shoot you were like, I'm working out. I'm doing great. I'm shooting the ball. I'm working. I'm working. But it's totally different. Once you walk on stage, it's a totally different thing. Yeah. It's been fascinating to me to watch people come back to being on stage after this COVID break. Oh, and everybody kind of getting their sea legs again. And the rest. There's definitely rust, and there's rust, and there's a desire to be doing new material, right? So whatever anybody's writing processes, you know, so there there has been a trend and an emphasis on creation of new over, arguably creation of good that it's that it's quantity, not quality. We talked about cadence earlier. But have you found are there certain comics that you've seen that their style has completely changed? Just by being alone for a year? They've just completely modified how they approach being on stage? I wouldn't say that it's gone that far. I don't know. Have you seen anything like that? I don't, it's hard for me to say because wherever they close here, I haven't really like we do in LA. Everything's like speakeasy comedy shows. I'm doing a show tomorrow, that I don't even know where it is, because the police have shut it down. So I haven't really seen anything. A lot of comics and comics, like you know, Rothenburg, those guys are doing super private shows and getting paid to do look. 10 minutes spot. Right. I haven't seen him. But I think that I had a really good answer. Oh, I think there's a I think that one thing you'll notice, and this isn't trying to be a bit, although I think it was a bit that was like the last time I did a show is the pandemic has robbed you of segues. There's no such thing as a segue in comedy. If you like, while we're close, we still got a girl at the gym. He fucking liar. Right? Right. Yeah. So you have to make your starting again. Because you like you're playing in front of you're playing in front of an audience who has an audience in a year either, right? Oh, everybody's practice? Yeah. But you think it's an opportunity for new comics to come in and sort of seize the sort of a, you know, it's, it's an open sort of clean slate. So you may have some people just appear or harder for the new comic right now. Because you don't have the audience kind of being prepped to be an audience. And everyone thinks it's like you with your phone or your computer and all these different apps, it's a you have an opportunity to just go like it's so misleading. It's like, let's say you have a funny 10 second set of someone punching you in the nuts with a T shirt cannon or whatever. And then all of a sudden, it goes viral. And you have like 19 20 million people and like you do a couple more videos, you have all these followers and all these fans, and you've got about seven minutes of material. There are still rooms that will book you and pay you good money because you're going to fill those rooms, maybe twice. Maybe no one comes back. But it's like, that's just how it always is. Right? It is frustrating that we would be far more successful with this podcast or in the entertainment industry. If we would just videotape each other shooting ourselves in the crotch with T shirt cannons I think I've got I actually had a concept for a show where I would tell the smartest jokes, I could figure out how to write. And the only thing that would be showing on the screen behind me is guys taking it in the nuts. With the show be called, you're crazy with your question mark. Hi, Brian Cobra. Yeah. Right. Right next to each other. I love it. And the problem is, is that I, it was harder coming up with the smart jokes than finding videos of people taking it in the night. I'm envisioning you like dressed up Masterpiece Theater. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, full full professor auriol approach to standing on stage with just guys getting crushed, right? It's basically, yeah, America's greatest videos on the back of you, but people continually to get nuts crushed. That would be great to do that live on stage where instead of videos, they're just two guys behind you that are just doing it. No one's acknowledging. You're not acknowledging them. They're just back there. Just that'd be pretty great. Yeah, it would be hugely successful. And yeah, and the best part about it is I could probably make those two guys that just got welded notes at the end of the show saw the merge. Yep. fans would want to talk to him. Yeah. How do you do it? Yeah, you would never have the say. And you could always swap out the guys. I mean, the nut guys are replaceable. Oh, yeah. As soon as they give you a little add to your off the tour, Joe. Hello, homies. Goodbye. Guys. Not guys are a dime a dozen? can get? Yeah, that that's the balance up front. Joe. That's the title of this episode. Yeah, not guys are a diamond. Guys, you could actually, that would know that I'm sort of thinking this through. Yeah, it would be really, it would be funny if you could, if you would agree. At any event, just to show up. Right? And you want to make a pitch to an important customer. I got two guys, I'll stand behind you just get crushed in the duck. For your entire promo. Alright, so let people know where when now that the world has come back to place? Where would they? Where would you like them to find you? I'm on social media at kiss army. It's pretty much everywhere. And my podcast is called heroine has a great publicist. And I enjoyed doing that as well. Hey, I do have a question that actually I want to ask you about your Instagram. So you hashtag the models, all the models, yoga models? Yeah. Okay. How did that get started? Um, I think that I was going I think I was probably whenever Instagram started, I just started looking. It was based on the frustration of being a 40 something white male comic do is just like killing himself to try to write jokes and getting 31 likes. And then someone just like, sentenced me near a car. And it's like 2 million hits. And it's like, not all like, Oh my god, that's so funny. So I just now I just now just cut and paste. It's hilarious. I mean, I love it. Because I think it's I think it's awesome, right? But I was like I wanted to know what the origin of it was. Because it's so many different versions of models. Right? Yeah, it's just making fun of it. Making fun of the whole thing. And it's just, I don't know, I don't think I'll ever change it. Yeah, I love it. I think it's hilarious. So I noticed it and I appreciate the humor implicit in it explicit and implicit. So my question and yeah, you can find me at the punch line next time Jimmy calm. Nice. Yeah. Hopefully to be in Ogden at some point. Maybe you need to know guys. Just give us a call. Yeah, yeah. I got something I got access to three nice guys. Good amount. Amount isn't okay. Your front man. Yeah, hosting. So I'm not in front man. Yeah, I'm thinking autographed cups. After the show. Some merch 25 bucks a mob. Oh, I don't think we do cups. Oh my god. But you know, yeah, no, actually, no, you sell you sell knock appointment. It's called nuts repair. And if you tell people the reason you can be doing the show was for comedy, but it's like to be honest with you. It's all about the natural elements and the healing power of non repair and it's you guys really? Yeah, we didn't hurt that matter. Yeah, no. Totally good. Yeah. And we don't need anything. I don't even need that. You just kick him and be like, now you do. All right I appreciate you joining us here sir enjoy your trip to Ogden Don't forget to stop it hires hamburgers or the pie pizzeria and apparently don't die in Utah because they're coming for your eternal soul. I'm telling you they're coming for all of us I am as as outraged about learning that as I am about anything else really? Okay it's so presumptuous but from their point of view on effective like the soul has escaped from their their point of view they're helping you out but they're not helping you out like it's because the celestial kingdom as they call it in the LDS without without it so they want everybody to get in so they're just helping you out. I would love to have been at the elder meeting when that whole concept was pitched. We need to grow this. Yeah, right. Yeah, well, listen there No, there's no ideas or bad ideas and be like how about we just grab them after they're dead? What do you think about Marian lots of wives and grab them after she can nap because fans are coming after us. All right. Before we go, I just want to say hashtag models hashtag all the models hashtag more models. Hashtag Thursday has said so much. It gets more models hashtag yoga model. Hashtag models. I think somebody should get more model. Alright, buddy, I appreciate it. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, sir. All right. That was Jay Chris Newberg very successful on America's Got Talent. Yeah. hilariously funny in person, you should really go see him if he's in your town, because he's, he works at a very fast pace. He has a great show. We didn't even talk about the fact that he writes legit music around some of his bits. So I love how he does that. Multiple choice. You know, it's kind of like Choose Your Own Adventure comedy club. Yeah, comedy. I love it. And when when you go see the show, so it's not like it's the same set. Right? So you know, some people would would use it as a as a gimmick basically to do kind of the same material. Right? He doesn't know it's a no joke, no matter how smart joke on night one is a different joke on night two, I'm wondering if at the eight o'clock show more people say clean and smart. And at the 1030 show, if more people say inappropriate, dirty controvert dirty and controversial. I'll probably probably Yeah. Or he kickstart the eight o'clock show with a little controversial Yeah, on the start. Do you think this one's that jokes he wrote that day? Do you think that they're actually jokes he wrote that day? I mean, he's not gonna lie about it. He's a liar. And that that hashtag models as I call them. Someone needed a new model. Okay. Well, he said, I've wrote it today. He's give me a new job today. And I think that's why it's a high risk and I would say this I I have not heard repeats rob the joke he wrote when visits right so so he'll, if he's there in January, and he's back in July. Jokes I wrote today aren't the same isn't the same joke. No, I loved his act. I love his I love the true drummer. I thought the stuff about cadence was incredible. Like that is an eye opening thing for the non comedian. It's Yeah, I will never not see that. Going forward. Another great Bach asked on the books Jimmy, Jimmy what I do